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Upgrading Tone Arms

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#61
Tue, 24/01/2012 - 10:58
http://www.audiomods.co.uk/technicsarm.html

it's yet another modded rega but looks interesting although if the mass has been reduced it may not suit the low compliance dj type carts.....check before purchase.

£600 plus is a lot of money....
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Mon, 23/04/2012 - 08:34
Well, eventually took Mk7's advice, got rid of my last Vestax deck and modded my Technics with OL1 and ATP-2XN carts..


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Mon, 23/04/2012 - 09:19
looking good
did you fit them or did you get someone to do it?

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Well, eventually took Mk7's advice, got rid of my last Vestax deck and modded my Technics with OL1 and ATP-2XN carts..


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Mon, 23/04/2012 - 18:13
very smart....glad people are still doing these mods.....4 of 6 technics are done now!!!

feel nice and reassuringly solid i find....wish i could get the bloody styli for the audio technicas easily and cheap still....i shouldn't have plugged them for so long on the forums.....
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Thu, 17/05/2012 - 01:55
Greg - yep, fitted it myself, very easy to do, as Mk7 mentioned, the trick is remembering which screws go where. Nothing more taxing then that. As mine is an older Technics I didn't need to cut any of the rubber mat. Only other tricky bit was earthing the tone arm inside. Then getting the carts on which is always tricky to align, but I'm no expert, took 30 minutes or so.

Darryl - cheers mate. Yes the AT's were not cheap, I guess they're dead-stock now. Just need to run them in now
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Tue, 24/04/2012 - 19:14
Looks good Matt. How's it sound?

May give this a go myself when time/funds allow - i.e. no time soon.

I've got a bog-standard RB300 on my Michell Gyrodeck so the plan might be to swap that for a new arm and put the Rega on one of my Technics (maybe giving it the usual mods first)...
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Wed, 25/04/2012 - 22:05
darrylfunk wrote:
....wish i could get the bloody styli for the audio technicas easily and cheap still....i shouldn't have plugged them for so long on the forums.....


Please remind me what the story with these were again. Have they completely stopped making carts, or is it just certain models that have been discontinued?
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Thu, 17/05/2012 - 02:03
Marius - AT are still making carts and styli. They have however stopped making the ATP-2XN. Which is a moving coil DJ friendly cart, which as Darryl mentioned got a lot of admirers on web forums like here and Wave Music.

Mine is bedded in now after 3/4 weeks of play and is sounding great. In fact it's making my other deck, which has a standard Technics arm and an Ortofon Niteclub E cart, sound a little dull.
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Wed, 23/05/2012 - 09:45
Thanks for the info Matt. Nothing I need to worry about at this point then.
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Wed, 23/05/2012 - 09:45
Thanks for the info Matt. Nothing I need to worry about at this point then.
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Thu, 24/05/2012 - 06:56
tokyomatt wrote:
Marius - AT are still making carts and styli. They have however stopped making the ATP-2XN. Which is a moving coil DJ friendly cart...

Just to be pedantic, the ATP-2XN is a moving magnet cart, not a moving coil.
Definitely a great cart, though. Very strange that they discontinued it, given what a positive reaction it was getting.
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Mon, 03/06/2013 - 06:56
misterharrison wrote:
tokyomatt wrote:
Marius - AT are still making carts and styli. They have however stopped making the ATP-2XN. Which is a moving coil DJ friendly cart...

Just to be pedantic, the ATP-2XN is a moving magnet cart, not a moving coil.
Definitely a great cart, though. Very strange that they discontinued it, given what a positive reaction it was getting.


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Mon, 03/06/2013 - 13:01
misterharrison wrote:
tokyomatt wrote:
Marius - AT are still making carts and styli. They have however stopped making the ATP-2XN. Which is a moving coil DJ friendly cart...

Just to be pedantic, the ATP-2XN is a moving magnet cart, not a moving coil.
Definitely a great cart, though. Very strange that they discontinued it, given what a positive reaction it was getting.


well it was technically and old cartridge... i think i was the first dj on forums to shout about the high quality of the range.

the replacement cartridge is every bit as good but not available in the uk from audio technicas uk operation.... the atp broadcast carts where launched i think in the early to mid 90's. so a long time ago.

i first found one on a deck a client brought to me to service... a denon broadcast deck. it had the top nude stli version of the atp on and it sounded really very good so i tried the carts out and found them superior to every other dj cart around at the time.... i then spent a few years bigging them up on the web only to find out the supplies had run down... the styli should be around for a while but the prices seem to have doubled through mercenary tactics.
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Tue, 04/06/2013 - 07:25
darrylfunk wrote:
the replacement cartridge is every bit as good but not available in the uk from audio technicas uk operation....

Hey Darryl - long time no speak. Do you mean this thing?
http://djmidicontroller.besaba.com/2013/05/audio-technica-at10g-vm-type-...
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#75
Tue, 04/06/2013 - 07:31
Hmm, no sign of it on AT's Japanese website, as far as I can see...
http://www.audio-technica.co.jp/atj/list_model.php?categoryId=1010502
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Tue, 04/06/2013 - 07:31
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Tue, 04/06/2013 - 13:08


yes and this one.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/audio-technica-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83...

healthy outputs so no noise issues, good tips, excellent channel balance and good fidelity. but not available anywhere.
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Tue, 04/06/2013 - 13:31
available in Japan presumably - could some of the Nippon based board members arrange an informal export service for trusty DJHers? Max Essa? Mikuni? (not sure if I've remembered that correctly) or perhaps Cash or Exchange via his inlaws?
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Tue, 04/06/2013 - 16:36
would be nice....

if i get my record shop/gallery/clothing and audio stuff emporium off the ground i may import them direct as audio technica uk don't bring them in.

or the nagaokas.... even though some of the ortofons are good anyway.
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Tue, 04/06/2013 - 18:40
I'm going to ditch the rega arm from my 1210 and go back to the stock arm with a Shure Whitelabel - The upgraded rega is going to go on my 1100 with a new timber armboard and timber surround with sorbothane hemispheres to replace the original feet, one of which went missing when I last moved house. This will be a dedicated ripping deck - or I'll end up selling it to pay the rent, one of the two
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#81
Wed, 05/06/2013 - 07:09
A couple of years ago I picked up a red pair of those AT-10G from Music Union in Japan. They headshell is quite heavy and is longer than standard, so I'm guessing it's intended as a 'DJ' cart setup. I thought the sound from the AT-10Gs was pretty good, but perhaps not quite as clear as my old Stanton 680E V.3 carts, or AT-95E (on a 1200mk2, into a Rodec MX1800). The specs are all in Japanese so I'm not sure if they're spherical tips or what. Since I got the AT-440MLa I haven't felt the need to go back. They do look great though! Hat
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#82
Wed, 05/06/2013 - 15:35
Still trying to get my arm/cartridge upgrades past the Household Finances Committee... Puzzled
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#83
Sun, 09/06/2013 - 10:27
darrylfunk wrote:


yes and this one.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/audio-technica-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83...

healthy outputs so no noise issues, good tips, excellent channel balance and good fidelity. but not available anywhere.

Healthy output? 9mv seems outrageously high and risks overloading your phono stage, doesn't it? Or have I been hanging out with hifi carts for far too long?
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#84
Sun, 09/06/2013 - 15:29
misterharrison wrote:
darrylfunk wrote:


yes and this one.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/audio-technica-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83...

healthy outputs so no noise issues, good tips, excellent channel balance and good fidelity. but not available anywhere.

Healthy output? 9mv seems outrageously high and risks overloading your phono stage, doesn't it? Or have I been hanging out with hifi carts for far too long?


nothing wrong with that at all... only a super bad phono stage would have a problem. some of ortofons carts do over 11. you have to remember the difference is power. so 6mv vs 12mv is only relative.
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#85
Mon, 06/01/2014 - 00:51
A copy of my post from the thread specific to Isonoe but it has some relevance here:

I took the plunge and upgraded my tonearms with the Isonoe 300. The difference is AMAZING. I'm no hi fi expert by any means but the level of clarity and detail in the music is light years ahead of the old arms. I mounted Nagaoka DJ-03D carts and have a Urei 1620LE mixer. It's a powerful combo - the music has a presence in the space now that it definitely did not have previously.

Installation was super simple and I cannot speak too highly of Justin at Isonoe for customer service - I asked quite a lot of questions and he was only too happy to assist, which is great when you have zero technical knowledge like me.
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