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Has there ever been a good trance track?

Has there ever been a good trance track?

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#31
Fri, 07/08/2009 - 14:10
two of the main reference points for early trance were italo and new beat - both of which also had a big influence on nu disco, so it's not surprising that they sound similar.

plus a few italo producers, most notably stefano cundari, went on to produce early trance like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkafv5mmg-A

stuff like 'balearic incantation', 'rej' and 'marionette' are all new school trance records to me. they come from different scenes - disco / balearic, minimal, house / techno - but they are still trance imo.
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 14:10
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dolle jolle ?

***looks for hide behind sofa smiley***


Someone played me a 12" by Dolle Jolle.

The original mix was basically a rip-off of "Computer Incantations For World Peace" by Jean-Luc Ponty. The mix on the other side sounded like 90s prog house. Not bad, but not my thing.

And yes, lots of so-called "nu disco" or "cosmic" stuff is just slow prog house dressed up in trendier clothes and sporting beards. Get a grip, people! Wink
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#33
Fri, 07/08/2009 - 14:18
Couple of Nu disco things that like sound trance/proggy records

Lee Douglas - New York Story
Aeroplane - Caramellas
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 14:19
Rohan;479440 wrote:
Couple of Nu disco things that like sound trance records

Lee Douglas - New York Story
Aeroplane - Caramellas


I was going to name-check Aeroplane actually, though I like Caramellas
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 14:42
these were pretty bangin' and played to death by every prog-trance DJ in town country & western - reincarnation, jens - loops & tings, legend b - lost in love, marmion - schoenberg etc

Laughing out loud

- level of cheesiness depended on the mix - before you knew it, you were into nu-nrg/hoover/tony de vit territory...

and that was when it was pretty much all over for me. Had friends who sneered at the commercialism of ^^^ and instead headed to the outer fringes of it all, the liberators, jon the dentist etc - but I left 'em to it
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 15:09
Mr Hanson;479450 wrote:
these were pretty bangin' and played to death by every prog-trance DJ in town country & western - reincarnation, jens - loops & tings, legend b - lost in love, marmion - schoenberg etc

Laughing out loud

- level of cheesiness depended on the mix - before you knew it, you were into nu-nrg/hoover/tony de vit territory...

and that was when it was pretty much all over for me. Had friends who sneered at the commercialism of ^^^ and instead headed to the outer fringes of it all, the liberators, jon the dentist etc - but I left 'em to it


i would class all that tony de vit type stuff as hardhouse - nothing to do with trance to my mind.

there's no denying that trance has suffered at the hands of commerciality more than most strands of electronic music. gatecrasher, oakenfold, tiesto - all looks pretty bad if that's the only side of it you're exposed to.

but i think the point of this thread is to highlight the good parts of it's history. of which there have been a few - late 80's / early 90's and again over the last few years via a comeback in house, techno and nu disco.
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 16:20
From what I can remember as a teenager, when the term "trance" first emerged it was mainly stuff based around a 303 or similar, and it's hard to do something *too* bad with a 303 as it's an inherently cool sound.

The rubbish that's been termed "trance" for the last 12 - 14 years seems to be based more around a big cheesey lead synth sound.

Play the same sequence on a 303 and cheesey lead sound and the effect is vastly different.
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 16:30
peej;479493 wrote:
From what I can remember as a teenager, when the term "trance" first emerged it was mainly stuff based around a 303 or similar, and it's hard to do something *too* bad with a 303 as it's an inherently cool sound.

The rubbish that's been termed "trance" for the last 12 - 14 years seems to be based more around a big cheesey lead synth sound.

Play the same sequence on a 303 and cheesey lead sound and the effect is vastly different.


that's quite a good point.

what we have now is simply derivative, lowest common denominator shite that plays well with people who don't see it as music - merely an energy release. That said, extreme trance parties can be very entertaining. I went to one at the fridge where there was a live show featuring gyrating robots on stage. I felt very out of place, because people really put effort in to the clothing, graphic equalisers adorning their t-shirts, the hair, the largest boots in existence - it's a parallel universe.
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 16:59
in a word, yes, half the nu-disco bits released verge on the trancey side these days anyhoo..
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 17:42
i used to play a fair bit of trance back in the 90's and recently gave just about all of it away. kept a few faves though i can't see playing them out.

hysterix - talk to me (sasha!)
sultana - te amo
pob - the essence (clanger mix)
clanger - sea dog
saint etienne - cool kids of death
opus 3 - when you made the mountain (well hung parliament mix)
south street player - who keeps changing your mind?

etc...
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 21:57
Two i still play for some inexplicable reason are Red Eye's 'Guinea Pigs Agree' and 'Opening' off the Oxygen Music Works 'Elements of Life' EP.
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 22:02
travy;479532 wrote:
i used to play a fair bit of trance back in the 90's and recently gave just about all of it away. kept a few faves though i can't see playing them out.

hysterix - talk to me (sasha!)
sultana - te amo
pob - the essence (clanger mix)
clanger - sea dog
saint etienne - cool kids of death
opus 3 - when you made the mountain (well hung parliament mix)
south street player - who keeps changing your mind?

etc...


Always enjoyed POB - The Essence, I might have to back and check Sultana... Cool Kids Of Death... trance? really? great track though
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 22:17
How are you defining Trance? I remember when Harthouse stuff was called trance, a lot of it still stands up.
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 22:17
Isn't some of Rainer Bloss' newer stuff kind trancey?
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Fri, 07/08/2009 - 22:23
Air Liquide - Unser Elektronischer Mikrokosmos (the 'ufo one' on Neue Frankfurter Elektronik Schule ep)

I recall a few of us being utterly blitzed and building a 'den' by turning a sofa upside down, shoving the speakers inside, blundering in and listening to this on full whack.

My only real run-in with 'trance' but quite a run-in at the time.
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 06:01
Count Cookula;479600 wrote:
Cool Kids Of Death... trance? really? great track though


underworld mix :oops:
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 10:05
travy;479670 wrote:
underworld mix :oops:


Yeah that's what I presumed, just wouldn't have considered it Tr*nce

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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 10:25
Trance nerds alert! Tongue
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 11:39
this is like a gulity pleasures thread -

i hada fondness for a lot of the dutch early stuff - like patrick prins -

like this - defintly early trance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGLFjC87Vc&feature=PlayList&p=C723C4C473478CFF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=64

got me racking my brains now - there were a few decent records

reminds me - MArk 7 played a trance record at the wrong speed at LateNIghtAudio - i never found out what it was , sounded great tho ! care to enlighten Mark ? Wink





this sounds good now if you pitch it right down ( dodgy vocal sample tho )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9ni3Fw3-bA
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 11:44
s_busby_uk;479426 wrote:
Hmm, maybe prog house is a closer cousin. But definitely having just flicked through some Juno trance I think my point stands with at some nu-dsico releases.

That Badelli 12" from a couple of years WELL sounds like prog house.
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 11:55
Cybodelics - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD7LqRinNuk

Fucking amazing music.
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 13:09
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 13:27
machinesoul;479607 wrote:
How are you defining Trance? I remember when Harthouse stuff was called trance, a lot of it still stands up.


some of that early Harthouse stuff, esp on the UK label are amazingly good still, if you like that sort of thing.
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 13:36
Trance before it went overground was a forerunner to alot of deejays getting back into techno which around that time was quite heavy with your Damon Wilds etc 'In the ole days' (said in the style of Terry Wogan) you ' d hear Trance alongside heavy techno..the two styles were releatively close in those days give or take the odd souless germanic monster, from DJ Dag.


Sabresonic with the good Lord Sabre was immersed in many a track on Eye Q, Harthouse etc There' ll be many an old fogey whose been going out the best party of 20-25 years to clubs in town who had a penchant for the more electronic sound with many a trance record[s] or labels tucked away behind all there nu-disco, re-edits and old disco records they bought long after they were buying trance.
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 13:37
*Blackshore;479719 wrote:
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In Sync - Storm


I' ll give you one out of two Blackshore, Lee Insync never made a trance record intentionally. Wink
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 13:52
Count Cookula;479683 wrote:
Yeah that's what I presumed, just wouldn't have considered it Tr*nce

Dangerous things pigeonholes


yeah, i'm trying to avoid trance vs. progressive trance vs. progressive house vs. techno debates or else i could name about 20 more tracks...Laughing out loud

i guess for me, trance kinda flowed from the deconstruction/guerilla type stuff into the more produced seismic/platipus sound before going off into perfecto/hooj land. lots more to than that of course but those were the big signposts for me.

here's more from the keep pile:

give myself to you - the daou
nush - nush
love stimulation - paul van dyk
can we live? - jestofunk
god save the queer - klatsch
your touch - r2001
feel it - coco steel and lovebomb
young american primitive
she holds the key - secret life
psych out - sure is pure
shake it - jark prongo
cheeba - khaled
before the fuzz arrives - sensible
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 13:55
TovinTobias;479702 wrote:
this is like a gulity pleasures thread -

i hada fondness for a lot of the dutch early stuff - like patrick prins -

like this - defintly early trance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGLFjC87Vc&feature=PlayList&p=C723C4C473478CFF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=64

got me racking my brains now - there were a few decent records

reminds me - MArk 7 played a trance record at the wrong speed at LateNIghtAudio - i never found out what it was , sounded great tho ! care to enlighten Mark ? Wink





this sounds good now if you pitch it right down ( dodgy vocal sample tho )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9ni3Fw3-bA


fave patrick prins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODdMhQ6gcGM

alright, this still gives me chills...:oops:
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Sat, 08/08/2009 - 14:08
last one before i lose anymore djh cool points...Laughing out loud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSryCfbvBg8
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