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Count Dracula

#2

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 07:34

fighting talk !!

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#3

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 08:15

fair case on suenos half. its the larry levan - harvey- ron hardy syndrome. everybody wants every record these guys played. if the man at your local kebab shop were playing these sets in a club you would all think he were playing rubbish. who even knows that these deep houe tapes are even genuine? its ridiculous - stop living in a past you werent even part of and find your own records to rave about. youre all dj's arent you! :

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 10:05

Agnus Booffa wrote:

its ridiculous - stop living in a past you werent even part of and find your own records to rave about. youre all dj's arent you! :

no offence, but i think you're sort of missing the point with these kind of things, Angus.i've always found one of the best ways to go forward with DJing is to look back every once & a while... that's why "Last Night..." was such a revelation to me, and why this website is so enjoyable.

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 10:09

smiley wrote:

Agnus Booffa wrote:
its ridiculous - stop living in a past you werent even part of and find your own records to rave about. youre all dj's arent you! :
no offence, but i think you're sort of missing the point with these kind of things, Angus.i've always found one of the best ways to go forward with DJing is to look back every once & a while... that's why "Last Night..." was such a revelation to me, and why this website is so enjoyable.

agree with you smiley; I think that history, in all fields, isn't a dead thing, but a breathing one.

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#6

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 10:15

Sueno Latino wrote:

As regards the second track - I know what this is but cannot say.

Are you feeling alright? It's only a record... :

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#7

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 10:21

Sueno: You know, there are people on this board, like Sean P, and Belson (who's forgotten more about funk than this entire board knows) who, when asked a question, willingly deliver the goods. They don't have to but they do. And even if they spent the entire day answering questions that they know and we don't, it would still not make anyone here a better DJ (although it might help them get a better record collection). If you know something, but you're not willing the give up the answer, that's cool. I respect that. It's not my style, but I understand it. But if you know the answer and then reply that you know the answer but you want something in return, do you not think it's a bit of a shitty attitude, not to say confrontational? It's a nice record, but it is just a record.

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 10:29

Sueno Latino As regards the second track - I know what this is but cannot say. It was discovered whilst playing through many thousand rubbish italo records one day last year. you would have to bring something equally tough to the table for me to even consider telling you. Sorry but thats just the way it goes. Even so, it ain't a title you're gonna find on GEMM, its a very rare 12"Good luck!
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#9

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 11:48

music's for sharing I thought? anyway, the rap one is by Tullio De Piscopo according to some, but nobody is quite sure of the title. Or even if it by Mr Piscopo...the one at 5 mins I don't know either...wish I did!

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 11:54

Jolyon wrote:

music's for sharing I thought? anyway, track one is by Tullio De Piscopo but nobody is quite sure of the title. the second one i don't know either...sorry!

De Piscopo made a relatively few hits, maybe the tune is primavera (stop bajon) or andamento lento

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 11:57

could be Radio Africa by Tullio De Piscopo....never heard the track though so I couldn't say!

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 11:58

Jolyon wrote:

could be Radio Africa by Tullio De Piscopo....never heard the track though so I couldn't say!

even this one. right jolyon

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 12:52

I'm afraid you're wrong jolyon. that track is NOT by 'Tullio' (and doesn't even sound like him). If you don't know what a tune is, there's nuthin wrong with that, but don't just reel off false or guessed info just to sound knowledgable. what's the point of that??As far as what Bill said - I am always very generous with my passing on information to others, and I think music is to be shared, BUT there are too many people out there now who just want to hoover up all the knowledge 24/7 without either bringing anything back to the table, or having spent enough time in musical kindergarden. Also as Agnus has pointed out, you only want to know what this track is cos 'Ron' supposedly played it (or harvey/levan/mancuso etc etc). What ever happened to people finding their own jams and working them?? There are still tons of wicked tunes out there not getting any attention whatsoever cos they weren't dropped by a cult DJ, but there wouldn't be any street cred in playing those, would there??In addition, If i named that tune, everyone on this forum would be looking for one, (jacking up the price) and the next thing you know it's on a shitty compilation or bootlegged by 'Automan'.

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#14

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 13:08

bottle of light with that fella?

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#15

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 13:10

Sueno Latino wrote:

you only want to know what this track is cos 'Ron' supposedly played it (or harvey/levan/mancuso etc etc).

...and I presume you picked it up without hearing it on one of these mixes first?

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#16

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 13:22

Sueno Latino wrote:

I'm afraid you're wrong jolyon. that track is NOT by 'Tullio' (and doesn't even sound like him). If you don't know what a tune is, there's nuthin wrong with that, but don't just reel off false or guessed info just to sound knowledgable. what's the point of that??As far as what Bill said - I am always very generous with my passing on information to others, and I think music is to be shared, BUT there are too many people out there now who just want to hoover up all the knowledge 24/7 without either bringing anything back to the table, or having spent enough time in musical kindergarden. Also as Agnus has pointed out, you only want to know what this track is cos 'Ron' supposedly played it (or harvey/levan/mancuso etc etc). What ever happened to people finding their own jams and working them?? There are still tons of wicked tunes out there not getting any attention whatsoever cos they weren't dropped by a cult DJ, but there wouldn't be any street cred in playing those, would there??In addition, If i named that tune, everyone on this forum would be looking for one, (jacking up the price) and the next thing you know it's on a shitty compilation or bootlegged by 'Automan'.

whatever. re-read the posts. I didn't say I knew what they were, I said some people say and 'i couldn't say'. For fucks sake they're only records (which you neither discovered or made I might add).

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#17

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 13:34

bloody hell. are you supposed to pass a test to like music nowadays?Something tells me you were the sort of kid that didn't want to give the other boys a ride on your bike...

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 14:09

matthew wrote:

bloody hell. are you supposed to pass a test to like music nowadays?Something tells me you were the sort of kid that didn't want to give the other boys a ride on your bike...

Hear hear! Lighten up!If you had to pass a test on music to be on this board I would no way be here.

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#19

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 14:24

dolly wrote:

matthew wrote:
bloody hell. are you supposed to pass a test to like music nowadays?Something tells me you were the sort of kid that didn't want to give the other boys a ride on your bike...
Hear hear! Lighten up!If you had to pass a test on music to be on this board I would no way be here.

ok, then I'll create my own forum!

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 14:27

Sueno Latino wrote:

In addition, If i named that tune, everyone on this forum would be looking for one, (jacking up the price) and the next thing you know it's on a shitty compilation or bootlegged by 'Automan'.

This is actually a fair point. If I'm looking for a record I try to keep quiet about it till I find one. But once I've got it, it's no secret any more.Surely if the record gains demand and the price goes up, that's good if you own one Jason?

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#21

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 14:29

Al Kent wrote:

Sueno Latino wrote:
In addition, If i named that tune, everyone on this forum would be looking for one, (jacking up the price) and the next thing you know it's on a shitty compilation or bootlegged by 'Automan'.
This is actually a fair point. If I'm looking for a record I try to keep quiet about it till I find one. But once I've got it, it's no secret any more.Surely if the record gains demand and the price goes up, that's good if you own one Jason?

If I don't own the record already I might keep it to myself till I've scored one, but then if it's ridiculously rare, I'm beyond caring, since I'm a tight-arse who never pays more than Â£50 for anything.

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#22

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 14:32

No-one knows about my secret Roachford B-sides.Probably because they don't care.

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Fri, 20/02/2004 - 14:55

I'd like to say something . . . . . I'm a music obsessive I don't meet too many who need help as much as I do with this addiction ( most of them post on this board) BUT . . . . I really do not give a monkey's about which DJ played what and when. (Larry Levan played some awful tunes in his time)There is NO room for elitism here. If you really want to play your part in unearthing undiscovered classics then PLAY them , TALK about the tunes! I think you'll find there is a good crew on here who will have something they will SHARE with you at some point. If you did not produce , write, arrange or play on these records you have NO right to claim them as your own! end of rant ! :

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#24

Fri, 20/02/2004 - 23:41

dhp anyone? :-\

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Sat, 21/02/2004 - 01:33

I never once claimed the tune as 'my own'. If any dj has a claim to it, it would be Ron Hardy.I think we have deviated from my original point. I just think that people should spend less time downloading ancient mixes and trying to uncover the obscure/obvious tunes contained within so that they can play them at functions totally out of context. If they used the same amount of effort looking for their own tunes, rather than a dead American/Italian dj that happened to be trendy at the time(Baldelli is a popular one at the moment, even though none of you have probably heard any of his tapes), then everything would be hunky dory!I don't think that's much to ask for. Or is it?

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#26

Sat, 21/02/2004 - 01:55

Sueno Latino wrote:

As regards the second track - I know what this is but cannot say. It was discovered whilst playing through many thousand rubbish italo records one day last year.

I hope you were looking for your own tunes Sueno, and it was a mere coincidence that Ron and you shared the same taste. Where did the Italo craze start? Were you playing it in 87 too? Or did perhaps a certain DJ inspire you to start looking for those kind of records.....What's the difference between listening to an old mix or a new one? Why should old tunes be out of place alongside new ones? If it's new to the bods on this board, then there's a good chance that it's new to the less music obsessed types who go out for other reasons....