The Monks

[Tim H]

'I Can Do Anything You LIke' has just been bootlegged, on Punk Disco Beat, vol 2. It appears that the miscreants behind this (and the timeless 'Nice Legs, Shame About The Face') are none other than...Hudson-Ford! <br /><br />Screw electroclash, it's time for a Novelty record revival!<br /><br />Tim

[ladyboygrimsby]

Punk Disco Beat, what? Never heard of that. Don't remember the tune, either, though the Hudson Ford connection was never a secret. They played on Top Of The Pops dressed as monks but it was clearly Hudson Ford. Reactionary bastards, anyway, they did that Part of the Union record.

[Tim H]

Not a fan then, Bill? I thought 'Heart of the Union' is the Strawbs - is that them as well? The bootleg appears to be a follow-up to this: <br /><br />http://www.discogs.com/release/128008<br />.<br />Worth a listen. <br /><br />Tim

[Jolyon]

and The Swarbs before they were Hudson Ford weren't they?<br /><br />what's the reactionary record you're talking about Bill?

[ladyboygrimsby]

Yeah, it was the Strawbs that recorded it, but Hudson Ford wrote it. Actually they didn't write it. They wrote an anti-union message over the top of Union Maid, a traditional US folk song. The dickheads. <br /><br />I still like them, mind. <br /><br />That Punk Disco Beat is just a bootie then? I can guess what most of the OGs are except the last one which is a cut up of Maximum Joy and Glaxo Babies, I suppose.

[Sandy Marton]

<br />'I Can Do Anything You LIke' has just been bootlegged, on Punk Disco Beat, vol 2. It appears that the miscreants behind this (and the timeless 'Nice Legs, Shame About The Face') are none other than...Hudson-Ford! <br /><br />Screw electroclash, it's time for a Novelty record revival!<br /><br />Tim<br /><br /><br />Damn..only just found out what track was a matter of days ago...very big Cosmic Afro record...why do these things happen?<br /><br /> :(<br /><br />

[ladyboygrimsby]

<br /><br />'I Can Do Anything You LIke' has just been bootlegged, on Punk Disco Beat, vol 2. It appears that the miscreants behind this (and the timeless 'Nice Legs, Shame About The Face') are none other than...Hudson-Ford! <br /><br />Screw electroclash, it's time for a Novelty record revival!<br /><br />Tim<br /><br /><br />Damn..only just found out what track was a matter of days ago...very big Cosmic Afro record...why do these things happen?<br /><br /> :(<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Nice legs, shame about the smack habit?

[Sandy Marton]

Ha ha ha ;D

[Tim H]

Cosmic Afro? ??? <br /><br />p.s. Having listened to it properly last night, the lyrics are straight out of the 'Mind Your Language' guide to race relations. Classy.

[ladyboygrimsby]

<br />Cosmic Afro? ???<br /><br /><br />Crazy club scene in Italy in late 70s/early 80s. Main DJs Baldelli and Mozart. Interesting story. Ask Jo, I think he's just interviewed Baldelli. I'm going over there this year to do some research.

[Tim H]

Yes, I saw a passing reference in Jo's Italo article in 'Keep On', which sparked my interest. Big scene, do you think? Did it last for long?

[ladyboygrimsby]

At one point it waas massive. People came from all over Italy, Austria, Switzerland to see them play. They were so obsessed with Baldelli and Mozart that when they started playing around the country (after the Rimini clubs got closed down because of drug taking) they refused to go in the clubs until they actually saw the DJs themselves going in. You'd have 3,000 kids stood outside waiting! <br /><br />There's still a Cosmic scene now, but it's turned into a kind of bizarre New Age/World music thing.

[Tim H]

What sort of stuff were they playing?

[Tim H]

http://www.cosmic-music.com/html/history_it.html <br /><br />Parlo Italiano?

[Tim H]

http://www.discocity.it/index.htm

[fabiofal]

<br />At one point it waas massive. People came from all over Italy, Austria, Switzerland to see them play. They were so obsessed with Baldelli and Mozart that when they started playing around the country (after the Rimini clubs got closed down because of drug taking) they refused to go in the clubs until they actually saw the DJs themselves going in. You'd have 3,000 kids stood outside waiting! <br /><br />There's still a Cosmic scene now, but it's turned into a kind of bizarre New Age/World music thing. <br /><br /><br />Daniele Baldelli and Mozart (aka Claudio Rispoli, see Jestofunk) still play an Afro Remember at &quot;The Baia Imperiale&quot; (formerly &quot;Baia degli Angeli&quot;), each year he first week-end of june; yes, at the moment the main scene is in Austria and Germany (see Stefan Egger) but here in Italy there's a quite vivid scene about Afro, even if a little bit hidden by the mainstream movements. But there were other clubs beside the Rimini ones: the Cosmic, for instance, was situated near teh Garda Lake; the Typhoon in Brescia, the Boomerang near Ferrara, the Arena near Padova, Melody Mecca (Rimini) is still open.<br />Baldelli keeps on doing some production under his label &quot;Cosmic Productions&quot;, while Mozart, well, Jestofunk aren't the last ones on the scene.<br />There's an interesting interview of Baldelli by Fabio de Luca (in his last book &quot;Mamma mamma voglio fare il DJ); if you like, next week I can post some info about Daniele and his DJ life.<br /><br />ciao,<br />Fabio

[ladyboygrimsby]

<br /><br />At one point it waas massive. People came from all over Italy, Austria, Switzerland to see them play. They were so obsessed with Baldelli and Mozart that when they started playing around the country (after the Rimini clubs got closed down because of drug taking) they refused to go in the clubs until they actually saw the DJs themselves going in. You'd have 3,000 kids stood outside waiting! <br /><br />There's still a Cosmic scene now, but it's turned into a kind of bizarre New Age/World music thing. <br /><br /><br />Daniele Baldelli and Mozart (aka Claudio Rispoli, see Jestofunk) still play an Afro Remember at &quot;The Baia Imperiale&quot; (formerly &quot;Baia degli Angeli&quot;), each year he first week-end of june; yes, at the moment the main scene is in Austria and Germany (see Stefan Egger) but here in Italy there's a quite vivid scene about Afro, even if a little bit hidden by the mainstream movements. But there were other clubs beside the Rimini ones: the Cosmic, for instance, was situated near teh Garda Lake; the Typhoon in Brescia, the Boomerang near Ferrara, the Arena near Padova, Melody Mecca (Rimini) is still open.<br />Baldelli keeps on doing some production under his label &quot;Cosmic Productions&quot;, while Mozart, well, Jestofunk aren't the last ones on the scene.<br />There's an interesting interview of Baldelli by Fabio de Luca (in his last book &quot;Mamma mamma voglio fare il DJ); if you like, next week I can post some info about Daniele and his DJ life.<br /><br />ciao,<br />Fabio<br /><br /><br />That would be cool, Fabio. While you're at it, can you provide a full English translation for Fabio De Luca's book? :P

[fabiofal]

That would be cool, Fabio. While you're at it, can you provide a full English translation for Fabio De Luca's book? :P<br /><br /><br />Sure, Bill; will you pay for the copyright? ;D

[ladyboygrimsby]

Hey, Fabio, do you know of any articles or books that have appeared in Iraly that have covered this scene? The Italian Consul for Bedford is a friend of my mother-in-law and she could translate.

[fabiofal]

<br />Hey, Fabio, do you know of any articles or books that have appeared in Iraly that have covered this scene? The Italian Consul for Bedford is a friend of my mother-in-law and she could translate.<br /><br /><br />As far as I know, the De Luca's book is the only one I know and the most recent; but if you look in the site above (http://www.cosmic-music.com/html/history_it.html) you'll find useful to translate; see also the links section for other stuff. <br />I've got a tape by Baldelli &amp; TBC (another Dj, Tosi Brandi Claudio) dated 1986 in which there's a song that is also in &quot;A Bugged Out mix&quot; by Felix Da Housecat double CD, the Ann Clarke &quot;Our Darkness&quot;. The only vinyls I had were related to the Afro scene ( a collection named &quot;Electro Funky Afro Sound&quot; and other stuff).<br />Don't worry, some stuff from De Luca's book will be posted...<br /><br />ciao,<br />Fabio

[matthew]

<br />That would be cool, Fabio. While you're at it, can you provide a full English translation for Fabio De Luca's book? :P<br /><br /><br />Sure, Bill; will you pay for the copyright? ;D<br /><br /><br />Copyright shmopyright. Just do a re-edit 8)

[fabiofal]

<br />Hey, Fabio, do you know of any articles or books that have appeared in Iraly that have covered this scene? The Italian Consul for Bedford is a friend of my mother-in-law and she could translate.<br /><br /><br /><br />btw, Bill: De Luca mentions quite several times &quot;Last night a Dj saved my life&quot;, and it'a also in the bibliography section.<br />If you can, why don't you contact him?

[fabiofal]

Copyright shmopyright. Just do a re-edit 8)<br /><br /><br />Good, Matt, I'll ask De Luca the Word file to work on ;D

[ladyboygrimsby]

<br /><br />Hey, Fabio, do you know of any articles or books that have appeared in Iraly that have covered this scene? The Italian Consul for Bedford is a friend of my mother-in-law and she could translate.<br /><br /><br /><br />btw, Bill: De Luca mentions quite several times &quot;Last night a Dj saved my life&quot;, and it'a also in the bibliography section.<br />If you can, why don't you contact him?<br /><br /><br />You're so clever. Why didn't I think of that? Any idea how I'd get in touch with him? Is there an email address in the book?<br /><br />PS Who'd have imagined a thread about the Monks would have tthis sort of staying power!

[fabiofal]

<br /><br /><br />Hey, Fabio, do you know of any articles or books that have appeared in Iraly that have covered this scene? The Italian Consul for Bedford is a friend of my mother-in-law and she could translate.<br /><br /><br /><br />btw, Bill: De Luca mentions quite several times &quot;Last night a Dj saved my life&quot;, and it'a also in the bibliography section.<br />If you can, why don't you contact him?<br /><br /><br />You're so clever. Why didn't I think of that? Any idea how I'd get in touch with him? Is there an email address in the book?<br /><br />PS Who'd have imagined a thread about the Monks would have tthis sort of staying power!<br /><br /><br />I'll have a look at it and let you know, Bill<br /><br />Staying power...that tune by Queen with the horns arranged by Arif Mardin, isn't it? Where 's he gone?

[Clarkeecat]

how many bands called the Monks are there? There's this one, the one that The Fall covered on Extricate ('Black Monk Theme&quot;) who were some kind of US servicemen in Germany doing proto-punk I think.... anymore monk-ish groups out there? The Friars, the Habits?....

[Jolyon]

Baldelli seems to have gone AWOL this week, but hopefully I can speak to him next week.<br /><br />

[ladyboygrimsby]

<br /><br /><br /><br />Hey, Fabio, do you know of any articles or books that have appeared in Iraly that have covered this scene? The Italian Consul for Bedford is a friend of my mother-in-law and she could translate.<br /><br /><br /><br />btw, Bill: De Luca mentions quite several times &quot;Last night a Dj saved my life&quot;, and it'a also in the bibliography section.<br />If you can, why don't you contact him?<br /><br /><br />You're so clever. Why didn't I think of that? Any idea how I'd get in touch with him? Is there an email address in the book?<br /><br />PS Who'd have imagined a thread about the Monks would have tthis sort of staying power!<br /><br /><br />I'll have a look at it and let you know, Bill<br /><br />Staying power...that tune by Queen with the horns arranged by Arif Mardin, isn't it? Where 's he gone?<br /><br /><br />Which one? Freddy's gone to that great Gay Bar In The Sky. Arif's still knocking about as far as I know.

[fabiofal]

<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Hey, Fabio, do you know of any articles or books that have appeared in Iraly that have covered this scene? The Italian Consul for Bedford is a friend of my mother-in-law and she could translate.<br /><br /><br /><br />btw, Bill: De Luca mentions quite several times &quot;Last night a Dj saved my life&quot;, and it'a also in the bibliography section.<br />If you can, why don't you contact him?<br /><br /><br />You're so clever. Why didn't I think of that? Any idea how I'd get in touch with him? Is there an email address in the book?<br /><br />PS Who'd have imagined a thread about the Monks would have tthis sort of staying power!<br /><br /><br />I'll have a look at it and let you know, Bill<br /><br />Staying power...that tune by Queen with the horns arranged by Arif Mardin, isn't it? Where 's he gone?<br /><br /><br />Which one? Freddy's gone to that great Gay Bar In The Sky. Arif's still knocking about as far as I know. <br /><br /><br />I mean Arif; however, great respect to both of them

[fabiofal]

<br />What sort of stuff were they playing? <br /><br /><br />there was also a tune which chorus sounded:<br /><br />go de yaka ,go de yaka, go de inaraka<br />go de yaka, go de go de yaka inaruba no stailey,<br />a musha stailey<br /><br />and so on..<br /><br />(I write it just as I hear they sing; may be some obscure Vodoo rite)<br /><br />Anyone knows the name and the author?<br /><br />Another one was &quot;Wings of Dawn&quot; by Monsoon<br /><br />ciao,<br />Fabio<br />

[leebradlee]

Fabio <br /><br />The track you mention is Monyaka - Go Deh Yaka.

[leebradlee]

You can get a rough translation of the article from Italian to English using <br /><br />http://www.freetranslation.com<br />

[ladyboygrimsby]

Have you ever tried using it, Lee? Rough's the word. Comical might be better ;)

[fabiofal]

<br />Fabio <br /><br />The track you mention is Monyaka - Go Deh Yaka. <br /><br /><br />YES! Thanks man! ;)

[leebradlee]

Bill, yeah have tried it and know what you mean, but you can get the general gist. Bit like the Snoop Dogg shizzolator site.

[fabiofal]

Another one was &quot;Wings of Dawn&quot; by Monsoon<br /><br />ciao,<br />Fabio<br /><br /><br /><br />The Unknown Cases &quot;Masimbabele&quot;<br />Manu Dibango &quot;Soul Makossa&quot;<br />Fela Kuti<br />Art of noise &quot;Moments in love&quot;<br />Dissidenten<br />Reggae (obviously)<br />(even a remix of &quot;Locomotive train&quot; by Jethro Tull)<br />Jean Michel Jarre<br /><br />more info to come...

[Very Ape]

See below - I wonder which &quot;Monks&quot; LCD Soundsystem - proto-punk sounds about right but you never know...<br /><br /><br />I heard you have a compilation of every good song done by anybody <br />every great song by the beach boys. all the underground hits <br />all the modern lover's tracks <br />i heard you have vinyl of every niagra record, on german import <br />i heard you have a white label of every seminal detroit techno track - 85, 86, 87 <br />i heard you have a cd compilation of every great 60s track <br />and another box set of the 70s <br /><br />i hear you're buying a synthesizer, and an arpegiator and throwing your computer out the window because you want to make something real <br />you wanna make a yaz record <br /><br />i hear your band have sold your guitars and bought turntables <br />i hear your band have sold your turntables and bought guitars <br /><br /><br />i hear everybody you know is more relevant than everybody i know&quot; <br /><br />pere ubu, gil scott heron, david axelrod, electric prunes, soft cell, human league, this heat, pharoah sanders, the monks, the outsiders, the germs, PIL, the normal, the bar-kays, erik b &amp; rakim, the slits, mantronix, the sonics... <br />

[DiskDalek]

Very Ape - I don't know what that piece of writing was about ...<br />but I likey likes !<br /><br />Fabio - Dissidenten !<br />... that's a name I have forgotten ...<br />Please can you point me in the right direction for some of their good stuff ?<br />

[Very Ape]

It's from the lyrics to &quot;Losing My Edge&quot; by LCD Soundsystem.

[Tim H]

<br />It's from the lyrics to &quot;Losing My Edge&quot; by LCD Soundsystem.<br /> <br /><br />Best record of 2002, in my humble opinion. ;D

[fabiofal]

<br />Very Ape - I don't know what that piece of writing was about ...<br />but I likey likes !<br /><br />Fabio - Dissidenten !<br />... that's a name I have forgotten ...<br />Please can you point me in the right direction for some of their good stuff ?<br /><br /><br /><br />Many many years ago (!) 1986 I bought a picture disk of them &quot;Arab Shadows&quot; and a 12&quot; &quot;Fata Morgana&quot;: this is all I've got; I don't know them very well, but these works are very good.<br />take a look at:<br /><br />http://www.dissidenten.com/dissistart.html<br /><br />ciao!<br />Fabio

[DiskDalek]

It's from the lyrics to &quot;Losing My Edge&quot; by LCD Soundsystem.<br />Best record of 2002, in my humble opinion. <br />Looking forward to hearing it during 2004 !<br /><br /><br /> <br />

[Very Ape]

I suspect it struck a chord with quite a few members of this board! ;)

[Sandy Marton]

<br />Yes, I saw a passing reference in Jo's Italo article in 'Keep On', which sparked my interest. Big scene, do you think? Did it last for long? <br /><br /><br />For anyone that`s interested there`s a very-tricky-to-use german site with a massive 80 page list of cosmic tunes..after entering the site click along the grey bar(sometimes this is not there)at the top until you find the `database` section. Quite a lot of modern crud on there but also tonnes of bonkers all over the shop tackle<br /><br /><br />www.musica-afro.com<br /><br /> :D

[ladyboygrimsby]

<br /><br />Yes, I saw a passing reference in Jo's Italo article in 'Keep On', which sparked my interest. Big scene, do you think? Did it last for long? <br /><br /><br />For anyone that`s interested there`s a very-tricky-to-use german site with a massive 80 page list of cosmic tunes..after entering the site click along the grey bar(sometimes this is not there)at the top until you find the `database` section. Quite a lot of modern crud on there but also tonnes of bonkers all over the shop tackle<br /><br /><br />www.musica-afro.com<br /><br /> :D<br /><br /><br />I had a quick look through that, Sandy, and there are some hilarious records there, though the DJ Bob ones seem to make the most sense. Blue Rondo A La Turk? Ho ho. I have that record (this is what happens when you paid too much attention to what The Face told you was good 20 years ago).

[Sandy Marton]

Lady B<br /><br />Bob and Mick are the boys...a lot of crossover balearic lofty type things...there is some drivel on there though!!<br /><br />btw the blue rondo thing`s not half bad in a percussion-y type way<br /><br /> :D

[ladyboygrimsby]

<br />Lady B<br /><br />Bob and Mick are the boys...a lot of crossover balearic lofty type things...there is some drivel on there though!!<br /><br />btw the blue rondo thing`s not half bad in a percussion-y type way<br /><br /> :D<br /><br /><br />Yeah, it's okay, but, Jesus, I bought it for the A-side which is nonsense. If you want top percussive action, try Surprize by Ralph Macdonald.

[ladyboygrimsby]

Anyone know what that XTC tune It's Nearly Africa is like? I don't have that album, but I do have some other weird XTC stuff. Tried downloading it at the weekend without any luck.

[Sandy Marton]

Yeah mate it`s great..it`s on &quot;english settlement&quot; and it`s an afro drumming number..not sure if you could play it out though

[Topester]

Don't knock Bluie Rondo Ms Grimsby... Me &amp; Mr Sanchez took the roof off Lowlife last Valentines ;D... and was listening to the John Luongo mix of The Heavens Are Crying only this morning... okay to be fair rubbish song but well rasty percussion!<br /><br />The Punk Disco Beat edits are by the same people who do the Automan ones... they're keeping it obscure enough not to devalue the originals I reckon

[Topester]

Fabio you might want to look here<br /><br />http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=2593660637&amp;category=58 637

[fabiofal]

<br />Fabio you might want to look here<br /><br />http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=2593660637&amp;category=58 637<br /><br /><br />thanks man! unfortunately I ain't got no record player nor vinyls, except those few bought about 20 years ago; in one of this there's also the Monyaka tune, even if i don't remember if it's a radio edit or the 12&quot; version.<br />However, thanks for your kind advice,<br /><br />ciao,<br />Fabio