Top Three Blue Eyed Soul Tunes [Archive]

ladyboygrimsby

10-24-2003, 12:20 PM

...I'll also stick my neck out and add that REM's 'Everybody Hurts', while not being a 'soul' performance per se, is a truthful and emotional song which I think stands head and shoulders above many others. Even without a Bobby Bland or James Carr delivery, it's a song with feeling. Yeah, it's a beautiful song. I also think that U2 tune written about blokey out of INXS (Stuck In A Something You Can't Get Out Of) is a great song in the same vein. There's also another emotive song by Kevin Hewick called Haystack (it came out on a Factory cassette) which has the same effect, except it appears to be about taking heroin, so maybe that disqualifies it ???

Jolyon

10-24-2003, 01:27 PM

Helen Reddy - Angie Baby Bee Gees - More Than A Woman (sorry!) Halls & Oates - I Can't Go For That

10-24-2003, 01:38 PM

;D ::) ??? Dunno if they all count... Inside Out – American Gypsy In A Strangers Arms – Attitudes I Wanna Be Loved – Elvis Costello Some greedy reserves... In A Broken Dream – Python Lee Jackson Keep In Touch – Robert Palmer Only A Fool – Steely Dan Walk On The Wild Side – Lou Reed Right – David Bowie Don’t Worry Baby – Beach Boys Eezy JJ

peter

10-24-2003, 01:41 PM

Bobby Caldwell - What you won't do for love Michael mc Donald - I keep forgetting Steely Dan - Peg

Jolyon

10-24-2003, 01:55 PM

What You Won't Do For Love is a corker...good call Peter.

peter

10-24-2003, 01:58 PM

Yeah, I'm still looking for that album, I only have it on a tk compilation. The roy ayers cover of that song is not bad either.

STRYPE

10-24-2003, 02:01 PM

young americans - david bowie peg - steely dan my head is my only house unless it rains - captain beefheart 'preciate the beefheart selction might look weird, but hear it & believe! on "clear spot".

10-24-2003, 02:31 PM

;D Agree that "What You Won't Do.." by Bobby C is really nice, but I think "Down For The 3rd Time" from the same album is even better - its already been listed I see. I wish it didn't fade in though. I bloody hate that. If I remember rightly, he followed it up with an album of complete shite. The Cat in the Hat or something like that.

matthew

10-24-2003, 02:35 PM

this weeks top blue eyed soul (sort of) the associates - breakfast billy mackenzie - at the edge of the world culture club - victims

Jolyon

10-24-2003, 02:42 PM

Ooops can't believe I forgot Lowdown by the mighty Boz Scaggs.

Sean P

10-24-2003, 02:50 PM

;D ...If I remember rightly, he followed it up with an album of complete shite. The Cat in the Hat or something like that. Knot sew...'Coming Down From Love' on same LP is h'excellent, though the fact that I can't remember any other tracks from said album may mean the rest of it is indeed soiled Y-fronts.

10-24-2003, 02:53 PM

;D Thanks Sean. I'll try to buy it back next time I see it!

Sean P

10-24-2003, 02:57 PM

Just been workin' the brain over... Ned Doheny's 'Prone' used to get rinsed out much at P Towers. Apart from the obvious 'To Prove My Love', three other corkers are on there - 'It's The Devil In You', 'Guess Who's Looking For Love' and 'If You Only Knew'. All very West coast and subtle, with great arrangements. Also a nod to the right honorable Tony Monson for a couple of his '80s power -plays, David Lasley's 'Saved By Love' and Kenny Loggins' 'Love Will Follow'.

Gavin Hughes

10-24-2003, 03:00 PM

Re: Bobby Caldwell, he also did a good 3rd album ('Carry On', I think) that carries on in the vein of the first. Two or three great tracks, including the title track and 'Words'. Not sure about anything after that though...

Sean P

10-24-2003, 03:00 PM

I'll try to buy it back next time I see it! Oh, yeah...Common sampled one of the tracks on 'Like Water For Chocolate' - can't remember its title, but it's the old '...I will be by your side' one. ;)

DiskDalek

10-24-2003, 03:06 PM

I only heard this once but .... Queen "Cool Cat" ... b-side to one of their big tunes ....

Sean P

10-24-2003, 03:06 PM

Re: Bobby Caldwell, he also did a good 3rd album ('Carry On', I think) that carries on in the vein of the first. Two or three great tracks, including the title track and 'Words'. Not sure about anything after that though... I'm sure BC made LPs way into the '90s, but probably just CDs on indie labels. I'm certain I had one from around 10 years ago and it wasn't really doing it for me. How the mighty fall - Lamont Dozier, one of the best songwriters in history, delivered one of the worst albums of all time, around that same period!

Belson

10-24-2003, 03:07 PM

Interesting selections - not exactly alot of blue eyed soul tunes being listed. More like a top 3 of the moment from whichever genre you fancy. That's soooo Harvey of you all. ;D

sonofstan

10-24-2003, 03:08 PM

some i'm into at the moment: puzzle "don't know where i'm gonna be today" (this is latino, does that count as blue eyed?) moon williams "can't live without you" (ace uk produced 70s crossover) lani hall "double or nothing" (slick lp cut a la elke brooks' rising cost of love") faith brown "bingo" (amazing uk cover of the whispers tune).

10-24-2003, 03:10 PM

;D Having another go..... Snow Queen - The Association (top Carole King thing) Blackbird - Beatles (white Terry Callier-ness) Showdown - Electric Light Orchestra (even better than Livin' Thing!)

Sean P

10-24-2003, 03:12 PM

Interesting selections - not exactly alot of blue eyed soul tunes being listed. More like a top 3 of the moment from whichever genre you fancy. That's soooo Harvey of you all. ;D What - no contribution?!

Dean

10-24-2003, 03:30 PM

So Tope has pointed me this way and I just can't resist this one Spencer Davis Group - Look Away (Winwood at his best) Charlie Rich - Feels Like Going Home Ned Doheny - Give It Up For Love ((always a good kick start at OST nights)

Topester

10-24-2003, 03:58 PM

Hi Dean... on the Get It Up For Love tip have you heard David Cassidy's version? wicked! my blue eyed top three Toto - Georgy Porgy American Gypsy - 10,000 Miles Teena Marie - Portugese Love Sean the Bobby Calwel track Common sampl;ed is called Open Your Eyes', the flip of 'Down For he Third Time (I think) the track is 'The Light'... both are genius... if I had to choose 1 Bobby track it'd be 'Coming Down from Love'

sonofstan

10-24-2003, 04:03 PM

Hi Dean... on the Get It Up For Love tip have you heard David Cassidy's version? wicked! Check out "Common Thief" off the same Cassidy LP

Belson

10-24-2003, 04:44 PM

Interesting selections - not exactly alot of blue eyed soul tunes being listed. More like a top 3 of the moment from whichever genre you fancy. That's soooo Harvey of you all. ;D What - no contribution?! I already contributed, Sean. Check the third post at the start of this thread. Less haste....... ;) Oh and how come American Gypsy falls into this bracket??

Andrew@6MS

10-24-2003, 04:53 PM

Steely Dan - "The Royal Scam". The best SD tune of all time...... arguably! Hall & Oates - "She's Gone" Michael McDonald - "I Keep Forgettin" England Dan & John Ford Coley - "Love Is The Answer" Boz Scaggs - "Hollywood" Donald Fagen - "New Frontier". Anyone ever seen the video for this?

Jolyon

10-24-2003, 05:09 PM

Doobie Brothers - What A Fool Believes.

Sean P

10-24-2003, 05:12 PM

Belson - cheeky...but 1-0! Anyone for Marilyn Scott and 'Dreams Of Tomorrow' (if it hasn't been mentioned already) ;D

smiley

10-25-2003, 03:44 AM

doobie brothers - 'what a fool believes' (best thing kenny loggins ever wrote) james ingram & ??? - 'ya mo be there' (who was that other singer??? black fella... oops!) steely dan - 'hey 19' (schweeet...)

Sean P

10-25-2003, 08:43 AM

doobie brothers - 'what a fool believes' (best thing kenny loggins ever wrote) james ingram & ???(Doobie Michael McDonald) - 'ya mo be there' (who was that other singer??? black fella... oops!) steely dan - 'hey 19' (schweeet...)

smiley

10-25-2003, 08:56 AM

doh! i'm remarkably bad at trainspotting, i admit it. what did ever happen to boz skaggs anyway? 'jojo' is a very fond childhood memory...

howler

10-25-2003, 09:05 AM

Smiley, lifted this from misicweb re Boz Scaggs "He retired to raise two sons, one of those musicians who didn't need to do it if he didn't feel like it; came back with Some Change '94 (accent on his languid guitar playing), then Fade Into Light (a jamboree bag of new versions of best-known songs, available only in Japan), and Come On Home '97 on Virgin, back in the groove. Two-CD My Time '97 on Columbia compiled 33 tracks of suave-rock 1969--87. "

Sean P

10-25-2003, 10:04 AM

doh! i'm remarkably bad at trainspotting, i admit it. Wish I could say the same! ::) Boz is back and here:http: //www.bozscaggs.com/ with new LP. Another for the list - the wonderful 'Love Is Here' by Jimmy Messina.

Ville

10-25-2003, 01:57 PM

:o EDIT: A victim of bad slang-translation, again ;D

peter

10-25-2003, 04:23 PM

already added my top 3, but why is "joe cocker - woman to woman" not mentioned by anyone???

ladyboygrimsby

10-26-2003, 11:29 AM

already added my top 3, but why is "joe cocker - woman to woman" not mentioned by anyone??? Because you just did! Well remembered, great record.

Very Ape

10-26-2003, 02:22 PM

Elvis Presley - I'll hold you in my arms Rascals - Groovin Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis LP

Belson

10-27-2003, 09:25 AM

OK, I know it's not life changing or anything, but I'm still a tad confused as to why American Gypsy was mentioned in a 'Blue Eyed Soul' recommendation. Unless of course the lead singer was wearing contact lenses and had a dose of the 'Jacksons'?

Makkun

10-27-2003, 10:18 AM

Jaco Pastorius - Come On Come Over Ian Hunter - Apathy 83.

rob.j

10-27-2003, 11:00 AM

Bit confused to what 's blue eyed soul ?... Whats soulfull to one is not to another..no Lotus Eaters - First Picture Of You Michael McDonald - Sweet Freedom ( I know it MOR but i like it ! ) D.Slyvian : Forbidden Colours cheers rob

Belson

10-27-2003, 11:30 AM

Bit confused to what 's blue eyed soul ?... Whats soulfull to one is not to another..no Lotus Eaters - First Picture Of You Michael McDonald - Sweet Freedom ( I know it MOR but i like it ! ) D.Slyvian : Forbidden Colours cheers rob Sorry Rob, is this directed to me (the quote tab helps a lot, y'know!) If it is, then no - I'm not confused as what 'Blue Eyed Soul' is at all. I'm fully aware of its boundaries. Though seeing your list, I'm not sure if you do - top 3 fave tunes of the moment by artists of white origin, perhaps is a better thread title. Just confused as to how American Gypsy made it onto this list - I take it you know who they are? Or maybe not then, because you'ld be just as surprised as I am. Like I said, not life changing, but how on earth is American Gypsy classified as blue eyed soul, considering at least half of the bands origins? Enough already!

Invincible Pigeon

10-27-2003, 11:36 AM

I'm crap at top threes, but I see many of me faves already listed; HAll & Oates, Boz Scaggs... More recently, Georg Levin's 'In Your Car' on Sonar Kollektiv has impressed... There's also a great DJ Spinna remix on the new 12" 'You Know What You Want...'

rob.j

10-27-2003, 01:04 PM

Bit confused to what 's blue eyed soul ?... Whats soulfull to one is not to another..no Lotus Eaters - First Picture Of You Michael McDonald - Sweet Freedom ( I know it MOR but i like it ! ) D.Slyvian : Forbidden Colours cheers rob Sorry Rob, is this directed to me (the quote tab helps a lot, y'know!) If it is, then no - I'm not confused as what 'Blue Eyed Soul' is at all. I'm fully aware of its boundaries. Though seeing your list, I'm not sure if you do - top 3 fave tunes of the moment by artists of white origin, perhaps is a better thread title. Just confused as to how American Gypsy made it onto this list - I take it you know who they are? Or maybe not then, because you'ld be just as surprised as I am. Like I said, not life changing, but how on earth is American Gypsy classified as blue eyed soul, considering at least half of the bands origins? Enough already! Mr Belson :) My post was not directed at anyone at all appologies if you thought it was directed at you ( gotta love the net ), All i was impying was "what is blue eyed soul"...the criteria for this top three as i am a little confused..? Is it. A white man who can sing well....a heartfelt reocrd....soulfull? Also i had just finished a night shift and have been up for 30hrs with no help ;) cheers rob...........must sleep.....Zzzzzzzzz PS. Sorry Rob, is this directed to me (the quote tab helps a lot, y'know!) If this was directed at you i would have used the Quote option :)

Belson

10-27-2003, 01:10 PM

Nay bother, Rob........enjoy your kip, sunshine. Last call on the American Gypsy, then...........anyone......??

Topester

10-27-2003, 01:23 PM

I guess 'blue eyed soul' is a fairly hackneyed term from the 70s/early 80s referring to soul records made by white folks,. not just pop records that sound soulful. But its a pretty damn grey area I'll grant you. Perhaps the boundaries are those set by the soul scenes of the times - so if the soul pirates of the 80s accepted the likes of Pop and say Yeah by The Limit then it was "Blue Eyed Soul", but say, Haircut 100 or A Certain Ratio weren't? Well, its a theory innit? I seem to remember there was a much less good natured debate on DHP a while back banging on about how it was a racist term ??? insofar as American Gypsy go, I always thought thery was crackers but as the only records of their's I have are on 7" and I've never seen a picture so apart from the general folk funk hippy vibe of the records I haven't got a leg to stand on as to their ethnic origins. Not that it really matters one way or another. Mind you I mentioned Toto 'Georgy Porgy' as well and a lot of its soulful vibe comes from Cheryl Lynn on BVs. So its all bollocks really. oh yeah - and while I guess everyone here's a fan of America's BES classic Tinman, has anyione heard the soul cover version? very, very good indeed...sadly the singer's name has just escaped me but its available now as a 7" on Kent. one more: Kenny Loggins - This Is It

peter

10-27-2003, 01:30 PM

What do you need to know about american gypsy. I have this biog (all in dutch). Just a few facts: They guys are original from LA, Went to holland (maastricht, thought they were in the us army, not sure about this) The first album was recorded with the famous dutch producer "hans van hemert". They have recorded 4 albums as American Gypsy and split in 1984. Some members of the band have recorded later as "max n specs"(Lorenzo Mills) and "band of gold " (Steve Clisby , Omar Dupree ) Just a pic for the color:http://www.popinstituut.nl/isb/282_1981_a.jpg More questions ???

Topester

10-27-2003, 01:32 PM

Weren't The Limit and Nu Shooz Dutch as well?

peter

10-27-2003, 01:39 PM

nu shooz (canada??) was remixed by dutchmen "peter slaghuis" who also recorded as "hithouse" and died in 1991 after a car accident. The limit is dutch, but the some of the background vox on "say yeah" = gwen guthrie. Found some better ?pics of american gypsy: http://k1ono-web.hp.infoseek.co.jp/a_ameyps75.jpg http://www.tirelipimpon.com/images/vign120/vamerim.jpg

Need it bad

10-27-2003, 01:57 PM

Some of my favs from around the globe James Walsh Gypsy Band - Cuz It's You girl Alex - I Gotta Feel Something Carol Hahn - Bad News Karen Silver - Nobody Else LuLu - Feelin' Alright Renee Geyer - Be There In The Mroning - It Only Happens

DiskDalek

10-27-2003, 02:09 PM

For Mr Tope ... John Edwards "Tin Man" Kent 7" ....

rob.j

10-27-2003, 02:17 PM

For Mr Tope ... John Edwards "Tin Man" Kent 7" .... I have never heard of : John Edwards "Tin Man" Kent 7" ................................. Or this was before i was buying records...not spotting etc...( I wil be 34yrs old on the 2nd Nov ;D - only been buying since i was 25 ) But been dancing forever.........and a day ;) cheers rob

10-27-2003, 02:20 PM

;D Good call on the James Walsh Gypsy Band by NIB. Pretty nice tune. Tim Man is John Edwards - top tune. Eezy JJ

sonofstan

10-27-2003, 02:27 PM

Here's a coincidence. There were actually two groups known as American Gypsy: The one who recorded "10,000 Miles". And a white US group who were sort of a cross between Chicago and Dr Hook (they were known simply as Gypsy in the US). This group later became The James Walsh Gypsy Band.

Topester

10-27-2003, 03:02 PM

The John Edwards cover is apparantly from the 90s but sounds 70s... its available now

10-27-2003, 03:16 PM

;D Don't know whether its right or wrong but I was told Tin Man was on John Edwards' Careful Man Lp which was made in the 70s but didn't get a proper release until the 90s. Whatever...it's a top modern soul tune. Have you had a modern soul top 3 yet?

D C

10-27-2003, 05:47 PM

Mr Union Man by the Cate Brothers What Can I Say by Boz Scaggs And there's a few by Dr John that I can't think of at the mo' R Dean Taylor - There's aGhost In My House/Indiana Wants Me Frankie Valli - The Night

Weekender

10-30-2003, 08:11 PM

Wot no Belfast Cowboy? Van Morrison Jackie Wilson Said Dion & the Belmonts The Wanderer/Runaround Sue Jeff Buckley Last Goodbye Many tracks by Dusty Springfield

ladyboygrimsby

11-06-2003, 11:02 AM

young americans - david bowie peg - steely dan my head is my only house unless it rains - captain beefheart 'preciate the beefheart selction might look weird, but hear it & believe! on "clear spot". Good call on the Beefheart, Strype! Found it for a couple of quid yesterday. Surprisingly un-shouty for Mr. Beffheart. V. nice.