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Mon, 17/09/2012 - 10:11
good news - the oval space was where body and soul was this year. A sweatbox, although in mid october that might not be an issue. The sound was dire for B&S, let's hope it's a different story for this
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Mon, 17/09/2012 - 14:07
It's ok Fred. I doubt if anyone else cares but I know yours was first. Smile

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Mon, 17/09/2012 - 14:45
Smile Smile Tongue It's these little things that matter... Thanks P.

And of course this party is obviously for the plebs. The real party will be hush hush nod nod, wink wink strictly for those hallowed few in the know either in some secret location or the ln-cc basement. Smile
C'mon chaps, where's the REAL party at?
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Mon, 17/09/2012 - 14:57
Fred Naked wrote:
Smile Smile Tongue It's these little things that matter... Thanks P.
Exactly. Nothing more tiresome than several threads covering the same subject...

I think you're right btw. I'd keep an eye on Saturday the 20th. Wink
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Mon, 17/09/2012 - 16:27
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I think you're right btw. I'd keep an eye on Saturday the 20th. Wink


.....amsterdam with andrew innit?

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Mon, 17/09/2012 - 18:43
Im growing my beard in hope i can make it to this wink wink nod nod special gig. Hat Hat
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Mon, 17/09/2012 - 18:58
I think the Amsterdam party will be the one to go to because at least you know Weatherall will be decent.
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Tue, 18/09/2012 - 22:03
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I think the Amsterdam party will be the one to go to because at least you know Weatherall will be decent.


I've seen him 4 or five times in the past year or two here in NYC (including this past Friday) and he has always absolutely smashed it.
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Tue, 25/09/2012 - 13:01
murt wrote:
good news - the oval space was where body and soul was this year. A sweatbox, although in mid october that might not be an issue. The sound was dire for B&S, let's hope it's a different story for this


I can confirm that the sound will nothing like it was as B&S. My friends are doing the sound and I can assure you it will be a monster of a system.
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Wed, 26/09/2012 - 09:05
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I can confirm that the sound will nothing like it was as B&S. My friends are doing the sound and I can assure you it will be a monster of a system.


good to hear but with respect to your friends the problem was only partly the system - the space has zillions of reflective surfaces: big sawtooth rooflights that clatter and a high ceiling, if this isn't sorted somehow the sound will never be right. That said the B&S system looked woefully underpowered for the size of the space & number of bodies and was distorting like a motherfucker
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Wed, 26/09/2012 - 12:35
murt wrote:

good to hear but with respect to your friends the problem was only partly the system - the space has zillions of reflective surfaces: big sawtooth rooflights that clatter and a high ceiling, if this isn't sorted somehow the sound will never be right. That said the B&S system looked woefully underpowered for the size of the space & number of bodies and was distorting like a motherfucker



Trust me, the sound will be fine. It won't distort because I don't think that Harvey will be able to get anywhere near the levels where distortion happens and it's hard to distort DnB sounds. As for the amount of people, the sound will be enough. As for the physicalities of the venue, there's not much that can be done about that, though the room will be set up very differently from B&S.

They're not using the new system in the venue, they're bringing in their own. I'm not worried about how it's gonna sound in any way shape or form.

Let's have a chat on the night and you can tell me what you think.
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Wed, 26/09/2012 - 13:10
for sure if I can afford a ticket when the next batch goes on sale Smile
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Thu, 27/09/2012 - 10:18
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for sure if I can afford a ticket when the next batch goes on sale Smile


Oh yeah, forgot about that. I think my ticket in is unpacking and lugging speakers, amps and cables round at the end.....
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Thu, 27/09/2012 - 10:28
well I'm good at that sort of thing - any spares Wink
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Thu, 27/09/2012 - 14:49
bones what rig are they using a v dosc? array?
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Thu, 27/09/2012 - 16:09
murt wrote:
well I'm good at that sort of thing - any spares Wink


Funny you should say that, all the expert box boys have come out of the woodwork Smile

darrylfunk wrote:
bones what rig are they using a v dosc? array?


It's DnB system, not sure which series, and they do the sound for Mastermind at the Carnival and that is a sound that has to be heard. Well there using that and about 2/3 more.

Apparently, the venue's been made a bit smaller and they're setting it up very differently form B&S. I don't know the technical terms but there will be huge stacks around the venue so there are no quiet spots. I think even the monitors will be huge stacks, they'll need to be
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Fri, 28/09/2012 - 13:43
acoustically speaking huge stacks does not equal no quiet spots....are they actually acousticians or are they a big box party sound system?

i ask because i'm curious about the gear and i have a fair bit of experience running big rigs, looks like they are using arrays to stop modal cancellation with full digital processing, if it's the v series rig it's known on the circuit as being on the bright sounding side which could be worrying in that room.....it's gonna take top gear, top acoustic treatment and a great sound engineer to make a good noise there, it's much harder than doing open air events or spaces designed for good sound.

hope they get a good run at it.

although i was under the impression harvey is having his own 'sound dudes' setting up and supplying a system.....could it be a recipe for disaster....i hope not.
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Fri, 28/09/2012 - 16:44
darrylfunk wrote:
acoustically speaking huge stacks does not equal no quiet spots....are they actually acousticians or are they a big box party sound system?

i ask because i'm curious about the gear and i have a fair bit of experience running big rigs, looks like they are using arrays to stop modal cancellation with full digital processing, if it's the v series rig it's known on the circuit as being on the bright sounding side which could be worrying in that room.....it's gonna take top gear, top acoustic treatment and a great sound engineer to make a good noise there, it's much harder than doing open air events or spaces designed for good sound.

hope they get a good run at it.

although i was under the impression harvey is having his own 'sound dudes' setting up and supplying a system.....could it be a recipe for disaster....i hope not.


Harvey and my friends go back a long way and he won't be playing unless they do the sound and Heidi told the promoters that.

I know they're gonna be delaying stacks blah blah blah but all that is proper geeky sh*t to me. Trust me they know how to set up a sound system, in a field, in a street and in a warehouse. These guys did most of the big Raves BITD.

I just can't wait to hear it.

I think their biggest worry is the neighbours.....

The don't only do outside events
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Fri, 28/09/2012 - 17:42
Keep going Bones... You ramp up the excitement with each post I read.

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Fri, 28/09/2012 - 21:14
On behalf of all those that can't/won't be present; we're not pre-judgemental. The primary focus should be on the surreptitious recording device.

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Sat, 29/09/2012 - 16:44
There will definitely be some speakers there. Inside info.
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Sun, 30/09/2012 - 21:18
Dj Bones wrote:

Oh yeah, forgot about that. I think my ticket in is unpacking and lugging speakers, amps and cables round at the end.....


you might be able to answer this then, Dj Bones. On the BIS piece Harvey says they're selling 5,000 tickets for a 1,000 space. That true? cheers.
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Mon, 01/10/2012 - 12:39
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Keep going Bones... You ramp up the excitement with each post I read.

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I seriously can't wait to hear it in full flow.

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you might be able to answer this then, Dj Bones. On the BIS piece Harvey says they're selling 5,000 tickets for a 1,000 space. That true? cheers.


I've heard that too, I know another batch of tickets are going on sale at some but I have no info on how many. I hope they're not selling 5,000 tickets for a venue that holds 1,000. If they do, lots of money will be made but there'll be a lot of pissed off people.
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Mon, 01/10/2012 - 12:56
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I've heard that too, I know another batch of tickets are going on sale at some but I have no info on how many. I hope they're not selling 5,000 tickets for a venue that holds 1,000. If they do, lots of money will be made but there'll be a lot of pissed off people.


The claim was made on the Beats in Space interview with Tim Sweeney a week or so back. Harvey said it, and Sweeney chuckled, but it wasn't cleared up as to whether it was a joke or not. Harvey mentioned that there'd be some turnover through the night, which is natural, but if they sell 5,000 tickets at 20 quid, most of those people will turn up and it'll be a joke.

if it's 5,000 sold for a 1,000 venue that's running 10pm-4am with Harvey playing all night, they are kidding themselves that people will dip in and out. There's no other venues nearby, no competition.

Any chance of having a word with your mates and finding out?
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Mon, 01/10/2012 - 16:50
Will see if they can find anything out
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Mon, 01/10/2012 - 16:12
The 5000 people bit sounded like a joke to me, are there even 5000 people in the UK who want to go to the night.
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Mon, 01/10/2012 - 17:16
Admittedly I have neither much interest nor ANY authority but as for the 5000 figure it couldn't be more tenuosly anecdotal, why give a damn? Is this a Health & Safety Executive forum? Funny how interest in such an event is communicated so indrectly Wink
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Mon, 01/10/2012 - 17:36
Maybe the 5,000 will be fed in, in smaller groups and allowed to stay for a short time before being moved on to allow the next group to bask in His glory, as happens during an audience with the Queen or the Pope. This way, profits could be maximised whilst ensuring that the 5,000 are indeed, fed.
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Mon, 01/10/2012 - 17:39
Smile

L, some context: almost everyone i speak to in this city has had so many nights spoiled by greedy promoters in recent years who oversell gigs. it's so often unbearable, no room to dance, endless bar queues and bog queues; it sucks and no one ever complains, we just pay and herd in.

An ALFOS gig at Easter in the Corsica studios was so full you couldn't move your feet to the incredible music.

i agree there's never gonna be 5,000 people at this gig, which I'm looking forward to very much, btw, but I'm interested in an answer. How many tickets will be sold?

it's not tenuously anecdotal at all, by the way, the source was the DJ, first hand. Direct quote, unchallenged.

I agree it's highly unlikely they'd sell 5,000 tickets even if they were printed in the blood of the cult leader, ut as Tim Sweeney was so in thrall to Mr Basset during the interview, the obvious follow-up question wasn't asked:

How many tickets *are* gonna be sold for this 1,000-capacity venue?
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Mon, 01/10/2012 - 17:47
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Maybe the 5,000 will be fed in, in smaller groups and allowed to stay for a short time before being moved on to allow the next group to bask in His glory, as happens during an audience with the Queen or the Pope. This way, profits could be maximised whilst ensuring that the 5,000 are indeed, fed.



perhaps, like the big art shows in London like henry matisse or leo davinci, there will be a time based ticket system allowing people to look at DJ Harvey, from behind a couple of tourists who are right up against him, for a few minutes before moving on in frustration
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